Will's Way Quantum Podcast
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Discipline Gets Easier When You Practice Gratitude with Rhys Thurtle
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A lot of people talk about discipline like it’s a motivational quote. We wanted the real thing, the kind forged when the stakes are life and death. Rhys Thurtle joins me to trace how discipline starts young, gets tested in army training, and becomes a survival skill on the front line in Afghanistan where every step can carry the threat of an IED.
We get honest about what happens after war, too: PTSD, flashbacks, hypervigilance, and the quiet damage of survivor’s guilt. Reese shares how purpose can disappear when you return to civilian life, how addiction can fill that gap, and why elite self-talk and gratitude aren’t “soft” ideas, they’re tools that keep you moving when you feel broken. We also dig into accountability, trauma, and the subconscious beliefs that shape money, risk, and the way we see ourselves.
Then we bring it back to the everyday battles most of us face: food, energy, and consistency. We talk whole foods vs processed food, sugar addiction, inflammation, keto, and why a lot of fitness marketing (especially protein hype) misses the point. We close with environment, vibration and resonance, meditation, journaling, and how to build a life that matches the person you’re trying to become.
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Welcome And The Discipline Question
SPEAKER_02Hello, welcome back to another episode of the Will's Way podcast. And I've actually got a very special guest in the house, Mr. Reese Ferr. How are we keeping buddy? I'm very well, Will, thank you. Thanks for having me. Oh mate, honestly, um, me and Reese, yeah, we go way back. How old are we like? We were young. First school? First school. Yeah. Fair school Donnies. First school. Reese was uh really good friends with my brother as well. When um do you know what?
SPEAKER_01He was around the house a lot doing a lot of stuff, though.
SPEAKER_02We were doing some crazy shit as well, uh, back back in the day. And um, do you know what? It's like we've kind of gone on this journey together, really. Do you know what I mean? Because um I've known Reese for a long time. We used to train quite a lot, actually, about good three, four years ago, didn't we? Quite a lot. And you were going through a lot of stuff back then as well. I was kind of starting my business and it was difficult, and we're in very different places right now, aren't we, mate? Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03100%, bro, you know. But um, the other side of that struggle that we went through has been growth, you know, we've just endured the pain and we've carried on, you know. It's been it's still tough, right, bro?
SPEAKER_02Oh mate, honestly, it's so tough. Like it's it never it it never gets easier, really, that it's just new challenges that's exactly that, bro.
SPEAKER_03You know, whatever life you live, discipline is hard, you know, being a waster is hard, you know. My both is hard. Being both is hard, you know. I used to be, you know, um live a very different life to what I do now, and sometimes I think my life's harder now in complete discipline and you know, doing really well in my life. But however, you know, the more you grow, the more pressure you're able to take it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and look, uh the whole the whole reason I've got Reese on it, we've we've spoken about this a lot, actually. Do you know what I mean? And to be honest, this year I kind of picked the podcast back up again. And I think we we spoke in the gym a few times and we about had, you know, could we get together and maybe have a chat about some of these things? But I think one of Reese's messages was in divine timing. And I was like, Yeah, you're right, like it will happen when we're ready to actually do it. And I think right now is the right time. Obviously, Reese as well, give you a bit of introduction to him as I know him, and he'll obviously give you an introduction to himself as well. But the whole point of this podcast, I really want to kind of cover discipline. Do you know what I mean? And Reese, you know, he's been in the army, um, he's in incredible shape in terms of physique, he lives a very kind of mindset, disciplined lifestyle, and he actually helps coach other people to be able to attain that as well. So, what what more is it to have someone who's actually doing it and actually training people to think that way than have you on the podcast yourself and talk about it, your experiences a little bit with discipline. Not even from like, you know, this stage in your life, probably back from when you joined the army, how difficult was it? Like, what what what levels is there to this type of stuff? Because I've seen some of your content as well saying, like, you know, getting up early, you think that's hard. Like, imagine being doing a tour in Afghanistan and imagine you know the stuff that you've had to really prepare yourself for back in the day. And you know, how d how does that discipline for you? I mean, again, I think starting from from early years, is that the first time that you actually
Childhood Drive And Going All In
SPEAKER_02understood what it really meant? I mean, was you actually prepared for it either as well when you were going into that scenario?
SPEAKER_03Look, bro, I've been disciplined since I was a kid. You know, I I started training at six, you know, and I'm not joking, bro, but whatever I've done in life, I've gone hard at it, whether that be in a positive way or a negative way.
SPEAKER_02Even playing Wembley singles, mate, you'd never give up.
SPEAKER_03100%, 100%. You know, whether it's um being be you know, playing football on the pitch, I was a footballer, you know, 24-7. Now I'm disciplined coach, 24-7. When I was um living a very different life and involved with a bit of negativity and crime and addiction, I was still good at that, yeah. I was I was good at that. Whatever I do in life, I go all in. And it's an obsessive um you know behaviour trait that I have. However, what I have learnt to do is tailor that in a positive way now to help other men.
SPEAKER_02How was it like so it's what what kind of um for you, why did you join the army? Was it because to harness that discipline, or was it or was it kind of like because a lot of people do do that, don't they, when they're kind of going down the wrong path. I do feel like a lot of people not find it as an escape, but kind of think, do you know what, if I don't do this, I don't know what my life's gonna become. Was that like that for you, or was it a kind of different scenario than like back then?
SPEAKER_03I think I've always had a call and to push myself to do some extreme stuff in my life. And I think if I didn't go in the army, I probably would have ended up in prison, to be honest with you. Really, is that's the way I was going, yeah. And I was in a lot of trouble back then, you know, young, 17 years old, and you know, was involved with crime and grew up around that sort of environment of negativity, and you know, a lot of people had a lot of issues back then. I mean, you know what George Pope was like. George Pope was a bit of a a rough place to grow up over back then.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, man, I I get it. I think I think as well, like as well, coming from more of a personal perspective, like that age group for us wasn't a nice one. Do you know what I'm saying? I think my brother got caught up in a lot of that crap as well, unfortunately. Do you know what I mean? And I think it was a hard generation to be in because I I generally don't think these generations exist anymore in terms of like especially the type of people that are around there, the point of time. It's so easy to fall into that kind of like group of people and fall into the energy as well, if that makes sense, as well. Do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03Of course. I mean, look, imagine telling your child now that they're grounded, they won't even know what being staying indoors is, right? I mean, staying indoors is not a punishment now. It's a kind of nice video. Yeah, it's quite nice. The games and they've got their flavor. Of course, but for us it was, you know, you got given a football, you got told to come back at tea time. Yeah. You know, and that's how it was back then. But you wouldn't change it for the world, would you?
SPEAKER_02No, I think we had the best upbringing ever, I think. Do you know what I mean? 40 park days and just going out and you know, I don't think and we had we had video games then, but do you know what I think has killed it? The the ability to socialise on games now. Yeah, that has become the new because I think we as human beings all need connection, but we we couldn't find that for a game because we couldn't talk to each other, couldn't talk to that. So we all just tried to get together, didn't we? That was kind of like what we needed to do, like we hurt all together in in in regards to that. Do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03So no, I mean look, growing up was a it was a great time for us all, really. Yeah, but it was a crazy time as well. Yeah, yeah, I agree. But definitely my childhood put me on a path to where I I knew that I was different to a lot of kids, you know, I was very mischievous, I was either disciplined or completely the other way. And I think it's just about learning who you are. Um, but the more I've practiced discipline, um especially the last few years, yeah. You definitely harness it, mate, and harnessed it, and all actually just taking so much pride in myself and my personal development, which is absolutely everything to me, you know. I could be in a cell with four walls, and as long as I could do press-up cells, burbies, I could live happy, and that's how I've trained my mind because of where I've come from, you know. When you've been through traumatic experiences, you've been through addiction, you've been through heartache, you've had to leave everyone behind and change your life. I've spent a lot of time on my own, and yeah, I've not been in prison, but I definitely have spent a lot of time in your own mental prison, yeah. 100%, but 100%.
SPEAKER_02So, what kind of draw you to go to the army then? Was it kind of a decision that you thought, right, this is more of a test for me, or was it kind of an escape to from the life that you was more of a test?
SPEAKER_03It was more of a test, bro. Everything for me is mindset training. You could give me a shovel in your garden now and tell me if you've got to dig a trench, I would find a way to dig that trench to dig that trench, and I'd find a way to be grateful for it, you see. The the the key is here when you link discipline with gratitude, everything changes. Discipline on its own sounds boring, but then when you can fill your brain with gratitude for being alive, being able to move your body perspective, and thank you, God, for allowing me to do this. When you can feed your brain that on repeat, which I can, you anything is possible in your life.
SPEAKER_02What was it like the first year in the army then? Was it like shit? I need to get
Army Training And Breaking Both Wrists
SPEAKER_02I need to get better, I need to dig harder to be able to align with what is expected of me, or was it easy for you to to to actually mould into that?
SPEAKER_03It it was a it was a m a lot more easier process for me than it was a lot of the guys because I had gone in there prepared, I'd been training at home, I had a treadmill in my bedroom, my mum and dad bought me a pull-up bar, and you were already pre-trained. But I was training, pre-training. I was the fittest in my platoon in training. Yeah. I won the first um you know mile and a half you do an initial race. And look, it in training I went through a difficult time, right? Because I broke both my wrists um four months into it. But the um I got a real um good passing training when I went back four days later with my casts cut off and they asked me where my casts were, and I told them I'd cut them off because I refused to be backsled because I wasn't losing that race to get out of there. Because let me tell you something. ITC Catarick back then was a brutal environment. Racism, yeah. Racism bullying, um, getting physically beat and abused, um getting getting beasted at 3 a.m. in the morning, watching on panorama.
SPEAKER_02When you say beasted 3am, what do you mean by that?
SPEAKER_03Beasted is where you get punished for either messing up or absolutely doing, you know, not messing up, but we I mean we'd get beasted regularly um because look, we're preparing for war at the end of the day. So did they do that to prepare you for war then? Yeah, but if you can't handle a beast and you can't handle Afghanistan. Yeah, okay, I see.
SPEAKER_02So it's almost like a preparation thing, which is crazy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it is a preparation, but it's also bullying, you know. We sat there watching um ourselves on TV on Panorama um because of the bullying culture and the racism in in Cataric, and you know, I was 17 at the time. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_02How do you deal with that when you're so young?
SPEAKER_03Um you have to develop a strong mindset, bro. Yeah. And you have to develop.
SPEAKER_02Do you think that's saved you now a little bit for something like that? 100%, yeah.
SPEAKER_03100%. 100%. I mean, like I said, I broke both my wrists. Um I remember just crying in the toilet, and I had a notebook on me, and I'd written down in a notebook why I was there and what my um goals were and why I was gonna endure the pain and stay out. And you know, I passed out without getting back swatted. I was probably the first ever soldier in ITC Catarick that had broken anything and not been back swatted. Wow, that's that's crazy, bro. That's mad. You know, I had a lot of respect from the corpals at the end of it. Yeah. And it set me up really for a good send-off from there because I was going straight to Afghan. However, when you leave the infantry training and you think the bullying culture and the racism stops there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it gets worse, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It gets worse, bro.
SPEAKER_02So how long were you training for? For was that the plan? Get you in there, train you up, get you guys prepared for what it is war in Afghanistan. How long was that period then? About a year? Six months you're in training for. Six months, wow. So it's not really that probably flew quite fast, to be fair, as well.
SPEAKER_03It I'll tell you why it doesn't fly fast, because you're you're actually anticipating the fear each day of what's going to come for you because the people who are running your program or your training are there to force weakness out. You know, they will break you down until you are broken, and then they will build you back up again. Out of 44 that started, I believe there was about 27 that passed out. Maybe, maybe a little bit less.
SPEAKER_02Wow, so that the 50% basic 50% rate as you went.
SPEAKER_03100%, bro. You know, within the first few weeks, people are I mean, you know, you go AWOL as well, you get put in the glass house back then, which was a a military prison, so you know, you couldn't go AWOL, but you know, you could request to leave, and yeah, they want the weak ones to leave 100%, because what you don't want on the front line is someone next to you that can't mentally handle a beaston um because they're not going to be able to help you in balance.
SPEAKER_02So six months has passed, you get ready for for Afghan. What's that like? Like, obviously, you've you've obviously built some incredible friendships and bonds with some people there. What was it like heading over there? I mean, for you.
SPEAKER_03I mean, first off, in training, you're with guys from all over the UK. So then when you leave there, you go to your regiment, so you har you know hardly anyone again. It restarts, so you're now a fish out of water, you know, and I was only, you know, like say 17, 18 years old. So when you arrive at regiment, you then actually start in preparation for Afghanistan. So I then then had another whole year basically in Afghanistan No no a whole year in the UK after training, ready for Afghan, and you do various exercises preparing you to go to war. Wow.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Jesus Christ. So you're prepared, you go
Afghanistan Stress PTSD And Coming Home
SPEAKER_02there, you hit the terrain when you go out there. What was that like? Like where does discipline take you then? Because that's a whole new level, then, innit?
SPEAKER_03It's it's uh it's depression, to be honest with you. It really is. Depression set in for a lot of us in Afghanistan because the more days you are over there and you understand that someone's trying to kill you, and the more you have to go out every day and patrol, you have to be very vigilant, you have to understand.
SPEAKER_02I can imagine that you're fight or flight. They call it a fight or flight, don't they? I you're probably constantly on this weird level of stressful alert, aren't you?
SPEAKER_03Let me tell you how extreme it is, bro. Yeah, you don't know whether your next step is gonna step on an IED which will detonate and blow you into fucking pieces.
SPEAKER_02That's just crazy, man. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03And then when you come back from there, not going off subject, but when you come back from there, how do you think that trauma stays with you? When you walk, you're instantly live walking in fear. You don't you can't be programmed to be fearful of a bomb and come back and just be okay.
SPEAKER_02Do you think that transpired like when you come back into like everyday life? Just like just being on edge and do you know what I mean? And being a bit socially maybe awkward a little bit first of all, do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Hundred percent. I mean my mum and dad instantly noticed that I wasn't me, you know. I remember um hearing gunshots when I come back and loud explosions. I mean, I was in my mum and dad's bedroom, you know, um having backflashes and I've had ma many, many sort of backflashes. I mean, I went to a fireworks night and ended up in the bushes and actually crawling around in the bushes and people trying to help me. But when you're in that when obviously also now, I I now know I'm diagnosed with PTSD at a severe level. Yeah. Um I know I can manage it and what to do. But when I came back, I was in self-destruct mode and it was chaos.
SPEAKER_02Do you think it's hard for I mean we hear about it a lot then we like a lot of veterans coming back from war zones? I can see how difficult it is to adjust because you are literally stepping back into civilian life and it's completely different. Do you know what I mean? And also it's getting the kick and the urge, because obviously, again, from some of that, you probably I'm not saying you enjoyed it, but there must have been exhilarate there must have been some sort of adrenaline there as well, that almost I don't know, kind of like it's a bit like training, isn't it? When when you're getting a pump on, it's painful, but there's something there that's that's that's not addictive, but it's pulling you there to that that that difficulty. Was that like that there as well to a degree?
SPEAKER_03You do not join the infantry to sit back and not go into a gunfight. I mean, we went out looking for gunfights every day in Afghanistan, it was just what you'd done. Wow.
SPEAKER_02You know, and so every day you could have lost your life, basically.
SPEAKER_03Every day, bro. Every day. Every day you go out and you hunt. Where I was in Helmand was the furthest north, British troops had ever been in Helmand. Everywhere in front of us was Taliban. And the the reality is, every day we were there, we were making moves forward, we were creating operations to move forward, we were creating new PVs, we were pushing the Taliban back, and what we came up against was a kinetic threat which we thought was relatively gone quiet in Afghanistan. We thought it was a lot of IDs, and there was a lot of IEDs. However, where I was there was also a lot of gunfights.
SPEAKER_02Really?
SPEAKER_03So a lot of that was kind of open fire, gunfights, strategic or kind of Yeah, and you know, I was there in the winter months, so it was necessarily not as quiet not as heavy as it would have been in the summer. And for a lot of the guys, it wasn't a heavy um tour duty. It wasn't for a lot of the guys. However, for me, and as I, you know, was um second in command of my section, I was first aid trained, I was um light machine gunner. Um I mean I've been shot at with every weapon system you can think of, and I had a relatively quiet tour to a lot of people in Afghanistan.
SPEAKER_02Wow, so even some people were would have had more of a heavy fight than that.
SPEAKER_03If we were there in the summer months, it would have been a lot heavier, you know. Yeah. Um but um we moved forward onto a ridge, you know. I've been RPG'd, I've been shot at with grenade machine gun, heavy machine gun, a fixed bayonet, we're through grenades, you know, and in in reality, when I was there, it wasn't as full on for a lot of the guys as they wanted. But where you're positioned in the platoon, sometimes you either get the luck of the draw, you know, it's either positive or negative. And some of the guys, some of the lead guys, um had very, very dangerous tours, you know, because they were the ones searching for the bombs, and you know, as you know, a few of the guys lost their lives.
SPEAKER_02That's crazy, man. That's crazy. And look, I have a huge amount of respect for you, man, just uh to to go somewhere like that and and you know, be able to face that. Do you know what I'm saying? As someone I've known since you know being a kid, it takes a special type of person to be able to even I mean, half the people I know wouldn't, you know, e even dream about doing something like that as well, fighting fighting for your country and everything, which is just it's incredible, really, if I'm being honest, do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03And you know, I don't think a lot of people fully understand what frontline soldiering is, you know. When you're in the front line, you are in a war, you are on the front line. You know, a lot of people who go to Afghanistan, they spend a lot of time in Camp Bastion, they're not on the front line.
SPEAKER_02They're not actually out there doing a lot of the fight.
SPEAKER_03100%, you know, it's a it's a luck of the draw to a to a point. But I mean, so many of the guys that that I was out there with, especially one War Anglian, um fine infantry regiment, and they were hardened soldiers from Iraq, from Afghanistan. And look, a lot of them
The Rescue That Changed Everything
SPEAKER_03ended up losing their lives, they lost limbs, you know. As you well know, I pulled my pal out of a trench with half his body missing. And the reality is he was an 18-year-old boy, and I was an 18-year-old boy too.
SPEAKER_02So, like, what goes through your mind when you're doing something like that? You know, you you're there, obviously you know this he's a brother, you know, you've you're you're in war with with this guy. Now that's probably the peak of of mindset, right? Of like, right, this is now do or die, basically. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03My my self-talk in that moment was uh elite level, bro. Elite. I mean, I had to get myself up the hill and into a position to retrieve that body, dead or alive, whilst taking shots, you know, so I could have been shot in the face, I could have been snipered, I could have stepped on a bomb myself because that's what they were doing, they were linking the bombs. But my self-talk in that moment is probably why I've got such great self-talk now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Do you think at the time it was like, right, I need to save this guy then? That was the only thing in your mind that you were focused on?
SPEAKER_03Not the only thing, bro, because um I was also very fearful for my own life. I of course. I I understood that I could have been I was, you know, potentially being watched to retrieve him because that would that is what we got briefs on. However, um my only thought in that moment was if he's lost both his legs, he's got he's got two minutes to live, if he's lost one, he's got around three, three and a half minutes to live. Jesus Christ. And um when I So you had to act quick like when I got to the top of the hill, um, because I'd come up a massive hill, because I was last man because I'm second in command of the section. When I come up the to the top of the hill, um the the second valen man who searches for bombs had actually froze to a point but because his valin, his um metal detector wasn't working. So I ran to that I ran to that that that comrade without any support to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that's incredible. Huge respect to you. So he's all uh good and well now, is he uh um yeah.
SPEAKER_03I mean now he's I mean we've actually only just started talking again, you know. We went for a long time where we didn't talk due to my personal issues with addiction and drug and um you know drug issues, but um he's done very well, you know. We have spoken um he did he actually messaged me over Christmas, you know, and um a couple of years ago he did message me a picture of his daughter, I believe, or sent me something to do with his daughter, which you know it was it was quite an incredible fulfilling moment for me, which I haven't felt because I've I'd never actually taken um I'd never given myself any praise for that moment.
SPEAKER_02Really? What wh why is that? Is it something that kind of blocked it out in terms of what you did?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, there was, bro. Yeah, I I I beat myself up for a lot of years because when you retrieve a man who stepped on a bomb and you can't apply the correct first aid because he's blown up I mean, his legs were blown off. One of his legs were blown off above his bum cheek, and I struggled to get a tourniquet on.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I remember struggling to get the tourniquet on, and this guy with half his body missing is speaking to me, making jokes, telling me I'm crying, he's making jokes, I'm crying over him, he's wiped my tears away as I'm trying to bandage his legs up, you know. And um I remember the smell, the fear, um, the heartache seeing him in that way, and it filled me with a lot of anger, bro.
SPEAKER_02Wow. But you saved his life, right?
SPEAKER_03Well, I got a bravery award for it. You saved his life, man. You know, we'll we'll we'll take we'll take the win, you know.
SPEAKER_02Um Man, you saved his life, bro. Like, and and I think that level of being able to I don't think anyone really would ever, you know, most people in life, I mean don't get me wrong, some people have saved other people's lives, but to be able to do something like that, you know, what an incredible thing that you can you can take with you and you should be proud of that really. Do you know what I mean? And I know it's hard because I it's easy for me to say that. Do you know what I mean? It's easy for me to say on the other side of the table. But you know, it must be an incredible feeling him having a daughter.
SPEAKER_03That yeah, that was probably the best feeling.
SPEAKER_02You know, like you've you've like he's now creating another life, and that wouldn't really be here if if you weren't there on that day and with that that incredible courage, incredible bravery, and incredible mindset to be able to say, Do you know what? Um and not even that, to have the un to be so unselfish in that moment, regardless of losing your life. I mean, I know people right now that turn their back on me for for money, let alone like 100%, you know. Losing your life, you know. 100% to be able to do that, you know, that's that's an incredible thing, bro, and you should be proud of it, man. Do you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_03I mean, look, when when we got ready to go to Afghan, I was drilled heavily on um casualties, you know, and it was almost like it we manifested it, bro. Was it almost like it was like it was gonna happen. And you know what? It was January the 10th, I believe, and huge explosion on the front line, 5 a.m., going into heavy battle with the Taliban, and the explosion was not just like I hear a lot of guys thinking about Afghan like a puff. Now, this explosion was massive. So loud, yeah. And it suppressed everyone into the ground. I mean, I was ages away, bro, and we had debris falling on us, and we were suppressed into the ground, and then straight over come over the headset, man down, man down, and my name's getting screamed left, right, and centre. And that pressure and that fear is already trauma, bro. You know, and that's without getting yourself into position to retrieve him. And I went right up the top of a hill, so I'm in sight of everyone. Started taking income fire from the Taliban, you know. So you don't really know what's going on, but all I know is that if I move round the back of the trench in cover, I may be able to hear him and hear him I did. Um you got you got you got it. I got up to the top of the trench. Um, I remember obviously being very terrified. It probably it probably took me longer than I wanted in that moment um because I knew how important it was for me to get him.
SPEAKER_02It was time as well, knowing how quick.
SPEAKER_03It was time, bro. I was literally looking at my watch. Yeah. This is how I was drilled, bro. When the bomb went off, I look at my watch because I know if he's lost both his legs, I've got four minutes to get off. And people can't people people around here in society will never get their head around what I had to go through. People will never give me, you know, the the respect for it, it even
Survivor Guilt Addiction And Finding Purpose
SPEAKER_03now, you know. Yeah, I can imagine that. And and that's fine, that's fine. I don't I'm not after respect, um, but I did suffer my own trauma and survivor's guilt is a real thing. And you know, seeing him like that um definitely derailed 15 years of my life. And as you well know, you know, I ended up I've seen the recovery, bro.
SPEAKER_02Do you know what I mean? And you know, it's it's quite this is why I love this. This is why I I really wanted to do this, if I'm honest. Do you know what I mean? Because I always had to be careful with this as well, a little bit. Like, you know, some of this stuff is really raw for you. Do you know what I'm saying? And I had to we had to make sure that this was the time to do it as well. Does that make sense? Because I've always wanted to ask a lot of these questions anyway, because obviously, you know, for me and personal development and discipline and mindset and all the things that I've kind of learned on my journey, I've always found these things really difficult for me to comprehend. Does that make sense in terms of how does someone actually do something like that? It's another level away from anything that, you know, creating a business or do you know what I mean, you know, doing other things is, you know what I'm saying? So it's it's a blessing to be able to get your perspective on it, do you know what I mean? And also share it to the world as well. Because I think perspective is really important. I do want to get onto that in a minute because you you make some really good points about just being grateful and just being just loving the fact you're here, and I think a lot of that does come from that, but I think a lot of society is so hidden from death and so hidden from this this this cruel world that we do have sometimes, and it's quite easy to turn the TV off, and it's quite easy to look the other way, and it's quite easy to get distracted into something that doesn't show you that part of life. Do you know what I mean? And I think you know, nowadays so many people are moaning and complaining and bitching about things. It's like, mate, you're healthy, yeah, bro. You can walk, you can't breathe, you know. Do you know what I mean? And I get life might be difficult, but mate, you've got the ability to you've got your able body. And I think sometimes, even myself though, bro, like I do like I find myself sometimes in in the mental chad complaining about shit, and then I have to redirect myself back to the fact that's like what the fuck are you talking about? Do you know what I mean? Like, bro, like you're completely you're getting lost in in the craziness. You've got to get yourself and centre yourself back to that gratitude of just the fact that you're even here. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03You know, so you know at the end of the day, you attract what you are, and if you're not grateful for what you got, you're never gonna reach some shit, yeah. You're never gonna reach what you really want in life, living from a negative mindset. You can never live a positive life with a negative mind. And that's something that I learnt the hard way, right? You know, I ended up uh addiction, very very, very heavy in um, you know, mental health, ended up trying to take my life, ended up in a coma, and from that coma, I found my my true blessing, my true purpose in life. From that pain, yeah, I now found out that I'm a natural-born leader.
SPEAKER_02And the very you've got a very strong story to tell, bro. And I think adversity is always difficult because it can affect us, and obviously trauma that you hold. But one thing that I'm always an advocate for is how you turn that seed into an equivalent benefit, you know. Um, you read it in Napoleon Hill's book, you know, To Think and Grow Rich is that seed of equivalent benefit. And one of the stories actually does remind me, not obviously exactly the same as yours, but it's a similar concept. There was a boy that was deaf within it, and it was actually Napoleon Hill's son, and he never took that as a disability. He always thought, well, okay, there is, you know, there's the ailment, but there's uh also another seed of equivalent benefit to that. And what he did, he actually taught his son how to hear again. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but because through belief, it is, yeah, through belief, which is great. But what he said was with that, is that because he was a little bit deaf, people sympathise with him a bit more and that helped them a little bit, get through life a little bit easier, and that's what he really leaned into. And I love that way of thinking is that you know, if you have got adversity or something bad has happened to you, there's either two routes you can go down. Yeah, you know, you either take the route that is gonna take you down and and and it's gonna take you further away, or you take the route that's gonna be able to get a benefit from. Like you see these guys with like no legs playing basketball and doing incredible things, and it's like there's two things they could have done there, they could have completely said life's against them and really complained. But no, what they did was grasp onto something new and special. Do you know what I mean? And I honestly see that correlation with yourself, you know what I mean. You've hit the the lowest of the lows from incredible experiences, but also you've you've managed to be able to pull yourself out of this and now start to you start your journey now in terms of this coaching that you're doing and and and and really trying to help people out of where potentially you was. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03100% I was, yeah, and absolutely. And you know, I can really only give people what I've done for myself, which is why you know I I lead and show them exactly um how it is. But I mean, I I truly believe that everything I've been through is for a purpose, you know. When I when I was going through the hardest battles in my life, I always had that voice in my head saying, you know, this is for a reason, and I'm putting you through this for a reason. It's like a test, like it's like a test. And um, you know, I'm truly I'm truly blessed, mate. Um I'm really grateful for my life, and I fully now understand the quality of your life will never be dependent on materialistic items, it will always be dependent on how you feel about yourself. So when you discipline yourself, and that is the biggest form of self-love you can ever give yourself, align that with gratitude and positivity. Man, your life's gonna become incredible, and mine has become incredible.
SPEAKER_02You have to do that, don't you? You have to you have to start with you, you know, you have to start with the way you think, you know what I mean? And I think a lot of people will try to go to the gym first, and they'll try to, you know, they it's a start, but you've got to get that mind right. You've got to be able to really want to go because you know you can force yourself to go, but then you have to motivate yourself, and it needs to become from inside. It's got to be you've got to be inspired to make the change, you know what I mean? And I think people struggle with that, don't they? You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, they do. I mean, a lot of people don't uh uh have a complete wrong perception of discipline and they don't understand that discipline is the actual gap, is the key to your dream life, to your freedom. It is there is no billionaire or millionaire on earth that hasn't been disciplined to get them there. It's true, yeah. As soon as you're disciplined, if you want to be a millionaire, act like one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you've got to be it first.
SPEAKER_03You've got to be it first, you've got to live in alignment with that, and you will attract. You never chase, you always attract, and you have got to live like that.
SPEAKER_02And that's the thing I think as well with you know what you're trying to do now with you know, and trying to spread the message, really, in it, do you know what I mean? And then what you're doing, you know, and when you come out obviously of that place and you've got all of these accolades, and there's obviously a big sense of pride around you. But when you hit back into civilian life, what was the reason that you went down the pitfall? Was it was it was it the feeling at the time where you was like, right, well what do I do now? Did you know what to do when you come out? Was it was it clear or was it like a bit of a a bit of a grey area where you just thought, you know what, and you end up slipping into this kind of spiral. How did how did it begin when you come out?
Accountability Trauma And Rewriting Beliefs
SPEAKER_03I think, you know, lack of purpose. Um I think lack of purpose, I think, you know, there is a grey area, I think there's no support, you know. Plus, I had a lot of issues that I didn't fully understand at that age. And it wasn't actually even until three years ago, will uh a psychologist sat me down and explained to me what was wrong with me, everything and uh you know but you probably didn't even know what trauma really was, did you? I didn't I didn't understand it, you know. I think we've all got deep-rooted trauma from childhood. Um, however, you know, if you're not willing to really be grateful for for everything in your life and you put the blame on people or things or circumstances, you're never gonna heal.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're right. I do you think that is though? Because I I know a lot of people like that. Do you know what I mean? Like it's never their fault. It's everything around them is cursed. Everything else, it's everyone else's problem, it's not them, they're not taking responsibility and accountability. Do you feel like that's just a subconscious, almost a subconscious way out of not actually improving?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think that's def- I I actually think that's deflecting from you know oneself, because let's be honest, no one wants to actually hold their hands up and say it's hard to do that though, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02Even now, like sometimes.
SPEAKER_03I've always been s very good at looking at myself in the mirror and saying, Reading fucking good enough. Yeah, you're not been fucking good enough, and you've done this wrong, you've done this wrong, but you know what, mate? You're still alive. You can make it work. You've got time. You've got time. You've still got time, you know. Look, bro, I'm I'm 38 this year. I've got my whole life ahead of me. The first half of your life should be for learning. That means mistakes, that means fuck-ups, that means trauma, that means forgiving. Fail fast. That means forgiving and accepting everything and everyone. Then the other half can be for earning and actually living and loving, you know, because when you really change your mindset, you have to learn to love because you can never live in abundance when you live in a mindset or life of scarcity. You can't. And that's a victim mindset.
SPEAKER_02That is, that is a I don't agree. And I think that's another and again. I think part of the issue is I think a lot of people do generally want to change. I do think that, but I also think they don't understand how their brains work, and I don't think they know what trauma is. And I don't think you know, you say to someone, you need to go speak to someone, or you know, you need to be able to get this off your chest to someone, and no, no, I don't need to do that, I don't know, no, no, I'm fine, I'm good. It's like, do they even know that that subconscious belief system's absolutely derailing them to a successful life they could lead? Because the thing is as well, you have to look at the statistics, right? There's a sh I mean, 95% of the people are are thinking this way. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, that that number alone, though, bro, it's worrying. Do you know what I mean? Like it that's worrying.
SPEAKER_03That is that is worrying, and I think that's a that's a society problem, bro. And I think also um we have to look far deeper than the individual. I don't think anyone's really willing to stand up and point the finger at the problem, which is the system that suppresses you, you know, the government. I mean, a lot of our beliefs actually come from our parents, right?
SPEAKER_02So they've been programmed against the system.
SPEAKER_03They've been programmed for generations of programming by the system.
SPEAKER_02I mean, I get it now, like, you know, even uh with with my mum and dad growing up, they my dad had a lot of money when he's growing up, he kept it all very scarce with it. Do you know what I mean? And I remember even going out with friends, and I I'm I'm looking at like I'll go to McDonald's for example, everyone's buying whatever, and I'm looking at the saving menu. Yeah, even if I've got the money. Like, and again, I didn't understand what that was, and I was like, no, I I see it now. Yeah, because you act how you are at that age when you're like from three to seven, yeah, you're in this feat or brainwave state where you're so impressionable. Do you know what I mean? And this is why, as well, with my kids, I'm so careful about ensuring that I'm setting a good example, but not by what I say and teach them, but way I act. Do you know what I mean? And like for me as well to build the business that I've got now, I had to overcome a lot of this shit because when was like right, time to take some risk now, time to invest a bit of money, yeah. I had the fear. I had this fear inside me, and I, you know, I knew that I had to do it, but it was sometimes so difficult to make these decisions. Well, you know, we're over it now, but I remember when I first started, even you know, when I first started the business, just borrowing a little bit of money, when money came up, it was this thing that was kind of and I was like, why am I like this? And I didn't I never understood it. I never understood it. But when I kind of retraced back and I was like, oh shit, yeah, I need to reprogram my whole subconscious way of being. Yeah. And and and and that, and that alone is just the a to be even aware of that. Do you know what I mean? Because I mean a lot of people aren't even aware that they've got these programs that they even exist, you know.
SPEAKER_03I mean, awareness is the greatest gift of all if you are aware, because you can never change what you don't know.
SPEAKER_02No, that's the thing though, isn't it? Like, how do we and I think this is why the good work of yourself and myself with with what we're trying to do and put this stuff out there, and again, this type of stuff is not going to be widely received as viral either, because it's not really stuff people want to hear.
SPEAKER_01Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02So I think it can sometimes, you know, some of the stuff that we do put out can be almost uncomfortable for people to listen to because they almost ready, they're not ready for it. They're not ready for it, but no, but not everyone is, are they?
SPEAKER_03No, they're not, bro. And look, let's be honest, if you are trying to you know speak to everyone, you're not gonna speak to everyone. Yeah, you know, you're gonna be able to do that. I'm about to learn that lesson as well.
SPEAKER_02Do you know what I mean? With this, you know, I have as well. It's not something you know we we we ain't able to this, ain't for the hundred percent of people, this is more for the three to five percent of people that are on the fringe of awareness and saying, right, do you know what I want to bet at what I'm doing? Yeah, I don't want to be able to get to the you know next stage of my life. Because you also look at it, bro, and this is another
Whole Foods Keto And Fitness Industry Myths
SPEAKER_02thing. Like, look how many people are unhealthy. Look how many people are overweight. Everyone. Everyone generally, if if you look at everyone's BMI, it's just everyone is is over it is over overweight in terms of their body fat percentages, you know, really to a fat.
SPEAKER_03It's become acceptable to be unhealthy now. Yeah, it's mad because people are just not ready for the fucking truth at the end of the day. I mean, if you look into what's going on and the chemicals in the food, you know, and people say, How do I lose weight? Well, get off processed food, you know, eight eighty percent of the time, and you'll be alright.
SPEAKER_02And but that's the thing, isn't it? Even that one change, you know, you don't have to be a nutritionist to say, if I if I don't stop eating frozen and shit and crap food, yeah, that's full of processed shit and just eat raw foods like raw vegetables, raw meat, and raw, you know, fruit. It it there you go. I mean, 80% of the people could change their the whole physiology just by doing that one thing. 100%. That's not even picking out a diet and not even picking out macros or whatever, just by moving to that.
SPEAKER_03Just to move into that.
SPEAKER_02It's crazy, isn't it? Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03It's incredibly easy to get healthy, bro, if you just eat whole foods. Eat whole foods, and that is it, you know. Chicken, meat, fruit, veg, you know, you haven't gotta overcomplicate things. Just think about how they used to do it back in the 60s, yeah. You know, and you know, raw organic stuff with no chemicals in it.
SPEAKER_02But this is a crazy thing though, because if you look at kind of the food industry and and the manufacturing industry as well, because you have to remember I'm very much involved with that, because we go to a lot of these factories as well. But you look at all of these extra products they've made, a lot of these extra products are just to make money. Do you know what I mean? Hundred percent and you know they're highly addictive, these things are. Do you know what I mean? As well, which is really, really scary because a lot of people don't realise that they're actually addicted to sugar when do you know what I'm saying? You know, and actually how much that affects your brain and your hormones. I mean, I've cut I've I've been on keto for four weeks now. Yeah, and I'm a completely different person. Yeah. Yeah, but you can't. I fall back into I call fall back into it and then I come out and I'm like, but when you've got clarity again, it's crazy. Like, even from this interview, I can I can I'm like, I need to ask him that question. But before it'd be a little bit brain fogged, you know what I mean, in terms of the way that you eat, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03You know, yeah, I mean I'm very disciplined with what I eat and how I eat. I mean, I like being extreme like I am. I mean, I don't shop in a supermarket, you know, I am that extreme. And it's not because, you know, of anything other than because I don't trust it. It's nothing to do, you know. So some of the food might be alright in there, bro, but I don't trust the the bigger.
SPEAKER_02But you're you're taking control for what you were about to do.
SPEAKER_03Of course I am. And um, you know, I've noticed a massive difference in my health. I mean, let's be honest, I was at the point of death at one point. I was on pills, I was, you know, couldn't even go to the toilet world. I could not sit down on the toilet and have a toilet because my insides were coming out.
SPEAKER_02But that's another thing though, bro. Because to be fair, okay, now you're in probably optimum shape, you know. What I would say, you know, you've seen your videos, you know, incredibly lean, looking great. But even back then, bro, you weren't looking bad. No, no. But that's the other thing people need to understand. Just because you might show a little bit of muscle doesn't mean you're healthy.
SPEAKER_03No, it doesn't, bro. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Like, what else are you doing? Like, what else are you talking about? 100%.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I mean, I got told by a uh a lady who was you know quite aware with with what was going on. She was a spiritual lady, and she said to me, Reese, you look great, but you're rot on your insides, you're killing yourself. And you know, that wasn't a wake-up call because I was so heavily involved with drugs and selling drugs at the time. But I remember even training through all my issues, you know, and I was unhealthy. I was so unhealthy, bro. And a lot of that came from eating processed food. Yeah. It did, you know, and obviously I had a lot of issues with drinking drugs, but you don't need necessarily to be addicted to drinking drugs to be addicted to something. Food and sugar and all of the crap they put in it is the biggest addiction in the world.
SPEAKER_02I think most people are addicted without even knowing that. Most people are. But maybe that's again, we go back to that awareness, don't we? In terms of do you even realise that you have a problem? And that's the thing, you know. But then when every single person around you is doing the same thing, it's hard to pick out a problem. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you have no idea, you know. You don't, because everyone around you, and you look at you look at people, even my old work, you their lunch boxes and what they're eating. But I used to eat the same. That's exactly what I was in. But now it's like, you know, I'll I'll cut some steak, I'll have some chicken breasts, and I'll I'll do some veg and stuff. Now I'll do that meal prep every week. And I take it into some site, say like, oh, yeah, that's fancy, isn't it? Like, how much they paying you? It's like, mate, this what are you talking about? Like this, this is just this is the way I eat. But that that almost becomes like completely like alien to them.
SPEAKER_03And also, your discipline will offend people, so they'll have to say something to you. Maybe that is the case. I've experienced That um, oh you know, what are you doing, you know. But when you think about optimal performance and when you think about how to actually get the best out of yourself every day, is actually not eating anything like you used to, you know, it's eating fresh whole food and you don't need a lot of it, you know. When I when I was in Afghanistan and we were going out on patrol, I didn't eat because I knew I was at my sharpest when you didn't when I didn't hunting it.
SPEAKER_02You can you can go into um well you can get lopic, aren't you? Because obviously your body has to digest that food. Of course you can.
SPEAKER_03And that's energy, isn't it? You know, imagine someone dying because you fucking ate something you know before and and look, sugar and and a lot of stuff spikes insulin, you know, and you know, you has a has a negative effect on your performance. I mean one of the worst things that I've seen recently was a group of fighters waiting to fight and they're sitting there eating crap processed food, and I thought that is how fucked society has got because if you look at boxes now when they're apparently in their optimal state before a fight, none of them are in shape no more, you know, because because it's a calorie deficit. Let me tell you something. If you believe the calorie deficit lie, you are gonna be able to eat and drink a lot of chemicals. You are gonna be able to eat and drink a lot of crap.
SPEAKER_02A lot of processed shit will only have a calorie base. It doesn't necessarily mean it's good, does it?
SPEAKER_03It fucks your hormones up, it can fuck your mood up, it can play with everything inside you, bro. You are a divine being that is electromagnetic. You need minerals, macronutrients, you know, you need your food or your fluid. I mean, like one of the best foods I eat daily is organic watermelon. It's it's you know, optimal.
SPEAKER_02So good, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Optimal, sardines, you know.
SPEAKER_02Fish and no meat freeze and stuff, liver, liver meat as well. Organ meat as well, it's gonna be very, very um nutritious, can't it?
SPEAKER_03I mean, I'm I'm massive on eggs, but again, I'm very careful where I buy stuff from. All my stuff is, you know, from somewhere where I know because look, when you've been as ill as I have been.
SPEAKER_02I suppose it's almost for you, it's almost like a trauma for you as well. And it's like I've been there, I'm now gonna do everything in my power not to be there again. Do you know what I'm saying? And it's you know, you go into some would say extremes, but them extreme for you is life. Do you know what I mean? That that's that's between life and death for you now, in terms of the way you think, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03And it is so and and like this is what I say to the guys I work with: this is life and death. If you carry on on this path until your 40s, you are done. And in your 60s, you will have enough inflammation to keep you in a seat and you won't be able to move. Like the time is now. Processed food causes mass inflammation in the human body, and people need to fucking wake up. And that's as hard as it is.
SPEAKER_02That is because you know, you you go down the road where you can't reverse it, you're you're you're you're fucked. You know what I mean? And I totally agree with that. Do you know what I'm saying? With you know, everything that that we're trying to consume as well, because again, you know, you talk about vibrational content, like everything has a vibration to it. And if you're eating stuff that's low frequency, what are you doing to your body? Do you know what I'm saying? Well, you can and your soul, of course you are, but you know, how are you gonna be in the best mood? How are you gonna go attract more customers if you're in a shitty mood? Yeah, or you're or you're you're trying to get some energy through something that's not naturally your food source. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, you know, it's crazy, and and I think as well, a lot of people not willing to go through the temporary pain, just get out of that. Like, even me on this diet for for the last four weeks, I mean, I've shed already. I've not even done really a massive amount of exercise because I've been busy, but I'm looking in the best shape I've ever been. I'm training like three times a week, but I don't I could train every single day, but I don't need to. Like, and that's and that's the crazy thing. I think when people like, yeah, man, I need to go get fit, I'm gonna go do the gym five days a week, but not change your diet. You're completely cheating yourself, man.
SPEAKER_03That's how you burn out, you know.
SPEAKER_02It is because you're you're you're feeding yourself shit. Yeah, you're overworking yourself to look like something that you're not gonna look like if you don't eat the right shit.
SPEAKER_03You need physical training and nutrition aligned. They need to be together. And they need to be together. And a lot of people I see in the gym, and a lot of people come up to me and they say to me, Reese, I've got how'd you look like that? Also say to me, I've got stomach ulcers, I've got this. I say, I say, I'll tell you why, bro, because you're bulkan. I say, Do you think your body was ever meant to consume over 4,000 calories a day? And not only that. Partly, I mean, I mean, look, I I think um that is so unhealthy for you.
SPEAKER_02If we go to footy pumps, right, and and you know, you've got people in there that are are kind of a part of that culture of bodybuilding, they want to bulk up or whatever. But is that really healthy?
SPEAKER_03No. If you look at someone who's bulk, they look 10 years older at the end of the bulk than they do at the start of the bulk. It's not healthy, is it, bro? It's not healthy. How can you be aging your organs with all types of food and a lot of it's processed food, a lot of it's chemicals? Because let's be honest, a lot of these people get all that protein with but you know, you're not going to be able to actually physically eat that protein, aren't you? I mean, I'm a firm believer is that you don't need the protein that they tell you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I believe that you need minerals.
SPEAKER_02Do you think the protein is like a sales gimmick? Yes. I mean, you see it now on food and you're plastered with food. Protein this, protein that. It's just to sell more product, isn't it? Really? Less.
SPEAKER_03If it was the truth, we wouldn't know about it. The truth is hidden, and we live in a world full of deception.
SPEAKER_02And until do you think the fitness industry right now are bullshitting everyone? Yes. Because I see it, mate. 100%, bro. I see it straight through that shit, and it's crazy.
SPEAKER_03If you go in any gym, you'll see all of the crap drinks, you'll see all chemical, chemicals, chemical drinks with a protein label on them, and you think, hang about, it's meant to be health and fitness. But what about that is health and fitness? I mean, some of the gyms around there had shitloads of Easter eggs in. I mean, look, bro, I don't eat chocolate. If I eat chocolate, that's dark chocolate, right? But to me, to me saying this will offend people. They will be offended by my discipline. And I'm not even at times 100% disciplined, bro. You don't need to be 100% disciplined. No, no, no, no. If you work between 70% and 90% and you're good, you're good, yeah. And don't get me wrong, I've had times in my life where I spent six months just drinking s filtered spring water. I didn't have no fizzy because I had I had you know a calling from within, you know, and I got to stop doing this shit. I got in incredible shape so fast, bro. You know, you don't have to be as disciplined as me, but if you can adopt a bit of discipline, not through, oh, you know,
Energy Resonance And Outgrowing Old Friends
SPEAKER_03I've got to do this, but hang about, I love myself enough to do this for me.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you have to frame it that way. Because I think if you don't, you're not gonna be able to see it through, are you? Do you know what I mean? You've got to be able to have that that self-love intertwined within that, and you've got to be able to want to do it for you, no one else. Because I think a lot of people say as well, I want to get in shape for my missus, or I want to get in shape to pull birds or whatever. And it's like, mate, the first person that you should ever be considering is yourself first, you know what I'm saying? 100%. If you're not good, you if you're not good, how can you be good for anyone else?
SPEAKER_03Do you know what I mean? 100%. And this is why I coach bro, because when I speak to guys and they say to me, I want to do this for my kids, you know, well, stop the look, they ain't gonna last. You need to become the best version of you first to give back to to everyone else.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_03Like, stop filling everyone else's cup up and thinking that yours is just gonna overflow, because at the end of the day, you're gonna you're gonna just burn out, bro.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because you can't also fill someone else's cup if yours is empty. 100%. That's what I say, you know, you've got to make sure that you're you're good first and you're looking after yourself first and stuff like that. And a lot of people is like, well, you know, even me now, like if I got a train that day and I've got work to do, I'll still train.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And my brain is like, what you're doing? You've got this to do, whatever. But then there's another part of my brain saying, Well, if you're not healthy, bro, you're not gonna have a business in ten years anyway. Exactly. So it's like, bro, you you if you don't look after the long run, the short run will come and get your ass, man. Do you know what I'm saying, bro? It's so true.
SPEAKER_03Look, bro, wealth is not money. Wealth is everything else. Is that energy that you attract the wealth? That is you attract the money.
SPEAKER_02And that's when I went on the f when I when I went on that first personal development journey and I started my business. First six months I knew if I carry on this way, this business won't work at all.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I had to completely change. Yeah. And I've mustered that first year, listened to about 80 books, and I got obsessed with it. I got I got over-obsessed with it. You know, I was pissing my misses off.
SPEAKER_01We gotta read this book, you know.
SPEAKER_02You know what I mean? And all the rest of it, I almost went too far with it. Yeah. But it was a bit like, it was a bit like it was a desperation because I knew I didn't have time. I was like, if I don't do this now, I've I've I've I've got to make this work in six months because I was on my knees, I had no money, I was fucking no contracts. I thought I'd be busy the first six months, and yeah, was I wrong? Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And I and I knew at that point, oh shit, bro. Yeah, this ain't about how hard you work.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02This is about who you become. Yeah. You know, and and that that that was for me, Jim Rohn. And I listened to I listened to one seminar, and I remember it like yesterday, and he was talking, and he was talking about this personal development, and Mr. Schoaf was his mentor, and he would do it in such a way that he would explain the story about his mentor talking to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I felt like that guy, and I knew it was me because everything was like shit, fuck. That was the awareness, yeah, that was the awakening for me. And then ever since that point, it was like I've already taken this risk now. It's not as if I was looking to do it, I was already in it, I was already knee deeps in this shit. And it was like, now, if you don't, if you don't adopt this philosophy and really understand it, you're not not going anywhere. Yeah, and then everything changed from that day. Yeah, I think I remember I listened to that seminar and the following week when I started just to feel like I was worthy, contracts dropped into my lap, and I was like, fuck. Is it is it is it is is what the fuck? And it I I stopped working hard and I started to just be, and everything changed. Yeah, and I think this is where people are going wrong, and I do tell people this, but they're so fixated in this grind culture. It you have to understand that you've got to get out of that grind culture.
SPEAKER_03I mean, look, you don't um you don't attract what you want, you attract what you are. Yeah. And when you live, you know, in the wish fulfilled already, with complete alignment from that, you will attract what you want. However, um society is built up against people, bro. Well it is, because every day every day's a struggle. Of course it is.
SPEAKER_02Every day is a reflection of every single person that you come across as well. That that is in that in that energy, in that vibrational state. And um, you know, even in my work, we ironically, um, we do vibration analysis, so you understand laws of physics. Yeah, you understand. I mean sound engineering. I've I've done sound engineering and understand frequency ranges and frequency pitching and all that. I've done all I've done all this, and I didn't realise really what it meant. I was applying it to music and I was applying to machines, but when when I started to think about you need to think you need to apply this to you, everything changes. Because you know, you have to understand that everything is is is is emitting. Like when you're around somebody and and they're in a shit mood, why do you feel it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, 100%, bro.
SPEAKER_02Because they're emitting the energy and you're feeling it. You're a you're a receiver, yeah, yeah, you can feel it, yeah.
SPEAKER_03You are a receiver, yeah.
SPEAKER_02You're a receiver, and all it is is that the energy that they're fit and remember, that's what another thing people really forget is that what you feel is what's being pulled out. Yeah. People don't get that. Like what you think, you might be trying to think positive, but if you feel like a piece of shit, you're gonna be emitting shit energy. Yeah, and I think that's where really kind of woke up for me because in vibration analysis, there's this term called resonance, okay? And every single object or thing has a natural frequency, okay? And when a force and frequency, external frequency, matches it, it vibrates. Wow. Comes into resonance. Wow. So when I understood this this this whole concept with machinery, I was like, the same thing applies to us. So when we're feeling a certain emotion, yeah, we're emitting that, yeah, then the universe matches the the force and frequency with with your your experience. Yeah. And when I started to realize that shit, it was like, oh fuck. Like, and I've done this for years, yeah. I'd done this job for years. I understood the relative theory with vibration and energy, I understood it all, but I'd never applied it to me. And the thing is as well, you get all of these engineers which I find crazy, and they understand all of this, and some of them are way more clever than me, bro. Like, there's some incredible guys out there that I work with, but when it comes to their own life, you look at what they're doing, it's like you're not even applying this theory that you know so well to you. To you, and you don't believe it when it's you, but you can believe it when it's a machine. Yeah, and and this whole comprehension is really hard for people to get their head around. And all I really want people to do is just try it. Because you'll you'll like at that point when I made that change of how I was feeling, everything changed. Yeah. And it was like almost like the the the unlocking the key.
SPEAKER_03But also, well I mean also well, you believed it, didn't you? Yeah, I said so so the the key is here, but belief shapes perception. Without believing in something, if you tell yourself you're sick, you are gonna be sick. Of course, man. So how many people get ill because of that? 100%. And and what you believed to be true shapes perception. And people don't believe in this because they're conditioned, unfortunately. They're conditioned mind, they're programmed to not know this stuff.
SPEAKER_02And also they're in such a negative energy. Of course they are. Even when they try to raise that energy, it gets brought back down again. And you look, you know, your vibe is your tribe, bro. And this is I think this is also really difficult for people because like I I've known people from school, and like they're your buddies. Yeah. When you're teenagers, you're growing up, you're going through all of these great experiences with them, and then you also know that you can no longer be around them. Yeah, and that's heartbreaking because it's like these guys are your guys that you grew up with, yeah, but you can't be around them because they're not the same energy as you. And the the saying it's lonely at the top is so fucking true, and and it it's hard because you're trying to be someone new and you're trying to reshape, not you're not even trying to be someone new, you're trying to be the higher version of you, yeah, and that potential's always there, and you instantly get reminded why you're not around them when you come around them again. Yeah, have you ever done that when you've like, oh, you've seen someone that you haven't seen in ages?
SPEAKER_01You fucking bump into them and you're like, oh and at first you're really happy to see him, and then when you get talking to him, you're like, oh fucking hell, I don't what the fuck? I need to get the fuck out of here. You realise it's not going anywhere, bro.
SPEAKER_02I need to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, and and that's the realisation because what you're doing is is your your body's taking you back to a place where everything was nice and green, and then you realise, okay, shit, this ain't this ain't the same vibe anymore.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I wish I could take everyone with me. No, you can't, though.
SPEAKER_03You can't. You can't, it's impossible. And also, this life isn't meant for a lot of them, they wouldn't understand that. I mean, I I say, you know, to to some of the guys, you know, um, at the end of the day, if if you now go and hang about with five millionaires for six months, you will adopt the mindset to then push yourself on and become a millionaire. You are gonna be who you are around. So that is what you're gonna become. And if you are around negativity, you will become negative. It's just like a bit of bad fruit around next to another bit, it will spread. It will, yeah. But also the same can happen with positivity.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, very good point, bro. Yeah, you're right. If you if you're around, and again, if you're around people of higher level of thinking than you, yeah, you start to level to that thinking. It's like when I was in Austin um in America a few weeks back, I was talking to some high players in that game.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And just uh the conversations, wow, you know. I mean, I come with an NGO, but the there was like there's there's also a thing um called uh infinite intelligence as well, and you probably read that in the thinking group. And I never really understood it, but I did understand it, but it was witnessing that mastermind energy shit, yeah, and and in Austin that I was there, bro. Like I was getting like my subconscious brain was receiving information that I was never gonna learn without being around these people. 100% and and and I remember having some of these ideas that I've even taken back into concept over here with some of the audit stuff that we're doing, and you know, we've got four or five customers lined up in America now just from the one idea that I had out there. Wow, and it's crazy how shit can can snowball like that. Because last year I went to Austin, yeah, but I wasn't that guy. Wow, didn't have no didn't bring any leads back. But this time it was like fuck man, there was like something crazy like there, just I don't know, something clicked and I didn't know where it came from. Yeah, and and if you ever get an experience like that, you get a hunch or you get some form of inspiration, it's coming from your subconscious brain, but it's still you. Yeah, I think a lot of people think, oh, that idea just popped into my brain, it wasn't me. No, it's still you, yeah, it's your your energy's ready for that shit. It's a download, right? Yeah, it is a download.
SPEAKER_03It's a download from what it is, is it downloads from your level of conscious awareness that you have reached, and once you reach a certain
Meditation Downloads And Closing Thoughts
SPEAKER_03level, you will then be able to receive more downloads.
SPEAKER_02Mate, and I agree, and it's like Newton's relative theory and all of these things and Einstein's, you know, um like inventions and all of that. I do believe a lot of them are downloads. I don't think they could consciously, from the information they had at the time, they couldn't they couldn't have comprehended it themselves. They got to a place within that meditative place and a higher awareness level where they were gifted from the universal infinite intelligence, whatever you want to call it, like there's lots of names for it. I don't want to make it sound too mystical because people then can't comprehend what we're saying. But if you can get your st in that state of meditation and you can really quiet your brain down into that really positive way of thinking, you can download some incredible shit that you're supposed to have, you know, you're supposed to share as well with with what you know other people as well. Do you know what I'm saying, bro?
SPEAKER_03So Yeah, I mean I've had some incredible downloads and also a lot of my intelligence that I, you know, and wisdom that I've that I've had have come from times on my own in meditation, um, actually after times, difficult times, you know, and pulling myself away and putting the phone away and actually sitting there for half an hour in thought or visualization, gratitude, manifestation, you know, that sort of thing. And just picking a pen up and writing something. Journaling it down, and you will receive infinite intelligence.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you will, but you're you're you're forcing yourself into the state to receive the information that you can't get yourself.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and that's another thing with uh with meditation. I mean, I've done it for years, you know. Ever since you know I started the business, it's been a religious thing for me, you know, like not religious but spiritual. And you know, when I go into my coal tub as well, do you know what I'm saying? Like, you literally, you literally, mate, when you go into that coal tub, you're you're forced to go into that that that element and that element as well, mate. You know what I mean? But Reese, bro, like, wow, we've kind of hit the hour mark, and what an incredible conversation, man. Like, I just want to thank you first and foremost for coming on and going that deep and you know, you know, revealing some of that stuff. You know, you didn't have to go there and do you know what I mean? I think people will find it very endearing. I think people will you're getting a lot of respect for for what you've done and and a lot of the accolades you're doing, but also you as a person are a very, very special person, and I and I generally believe that you're on an incredible path, and yeah, we need people like yourself evangelising about this type of thing and speaking the truth, you know what I mean? And not being scared to be able to do it as well, you know, it's something that I'm I'm now going on my own journey to do as well, and for us to come together to be able to do something like this is is a massive, massive like pleasure, bro. So thank you for coming on. Any last words for the guys at the Wills Way podcast, bro?
SPEAKER_03Um, wow, guys. Well, Will, thanks for having me on. Um let's do it again, man. Yeah, let's do it again. I think there's a lot of things. Let me tell you something, yeah. I've got a lot of stories. Um, I've got a lot of heartache, I've got a lot of trauma. I've also got a lot of involved with crime, you know, and a lot of the issues that I went through with selling drugs and picking up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, heavy, heavy. What I think next time we do that, bro, yeah, yeah. We can get a little bit deeper into some of them stories. Because I think that some of them are really interesting to me as well. Because the thing is, bro, I know you very well. So I'm trying to kind of like ask you questions, not from just my own perspective as well. Do you know what I'm saying? So the viewers can get a bit of a taste for what you've gone through, do you know what I'm saying? Because you know, sometimes what you need in a podcast is to be drawn out a little bit, you know, of course, and I like that, bro.
SPEAKER_03I like that. I'm sure whatever feedback you get from this, let's see what the viewers want if they want me back on.
SPEAKER_02I don't care what they say anyway, I've given you back up because I've I've I've really enjoyed the conversation, and I think you know, there's a lot more that we can talk about, especially with the kind of manifestation stuff as well.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, bro. Man, God bless you. Thank you so much. Take care, bro. Cheers, man.
SPEAKER_00I've been searching in the comments, man.